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So obviously there is much debate on this vs the 500 and "out growing the 300 quickly", and "can the 300 handle the highway/long distance?"

My question is how versatile is this bike?

Ive seen plenty of debate on people saying the 300 works fine for the highway and plenty of people that says it will not.
Ive seen reports of top speeds anywhere between 75mph to almost 90mph on the 300.. Almost every highway in America speed limit isnt past 70.. yeah you wont have much passing power i get that. But plenty of power to handle the freeways I would think..

A quick search and there has been countless people that have taken old Rebel 250s across the whole country and it worked for them. Month long 5000 mile trips on a 250..Obviously not the most ideal bike for this by any means but it works? The 300 I would think is a huge upgrade from a old Rebel, a much more modern bike with a few more cc's then its older brother. Also hear the little 300 gets blown around in the wind a lot to the point its dangerous, but the 500 is only 50-60 pounds heavier, I cant see that making more than a minor difference. Obviously upgrading grips and seat will help with comfort. Seems like its great for around town but could it do some long distance highway and multi state trips occasionally? Thank you in advance
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The size of the motorcycle that you need is just a matter of opinion. I live in North Texas and it is quite windy here compared to any other place I have ever lived. On the day I tested the 300 Rebel I had 20 to 25 MPH head wind on my return to the dealer and it was working to stay above 60 mph. If I had it to do over again I would probably have bought the Rebel 300. Where I ride 60 MPH is usually breaking the speed limit.

My friend has a 300 and he doesn't have any trouble keeping up with me or the big Harleys and Gold Wings that travel in our group.

The big questions are how much do you weigh, what are wind conditions like where you live, and how fast do you want to go.

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The size of the motorcycle that you need is just a matter of opinion. I live in North Texas and it is quite windy here compared to any other place I have ever lived. On the day I tested the 300 Rebel I had 20 to 25 MPH head wind on my return to the dealer and it was working to stay above 60 mph. If I had it to do over again I would probably have bought the Rebel 300. Where I ride 60 MPH is usually breaking the speed limit.

My friend has a 300 and he doesn't have any trouble keeping up with me or the big Harleys and Gold Wings that travel in our group.

The big questions are how much do you weigh, what are wind conditions like where you live, and how fast do you want to go.

Kenny G
Thank you Kenny!
I weigh 170 lbs, I live in California/Bay Area where most speed limits are 60 or 70mph. Wind conditions vary, at times it can get pretty windy depending where your at or none at all. Mostly would just be commuting with a occasional country ride. Im a pretty safe driver and dont see myself going more than 70 to 85mph on a bike, seems plenty for me. I also would like to eventually take a trip or two up through Oregan and Washington on a bike to visit family. (about a 700-800 mile trip one way from me)

Hence my thus far never ending debate on purchasing a 300 vs a 500 wich I would like to do for this riding season
 

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Thank you Kenny!
I weigh 170 lbs, I live in California/Bay Area where most speed limits are 60 or 70mph. Wind conditions vary, at times it can get pretty windy depending where your at or none at all. Mostly would just be commuting with a occasional country ride. Im a pretty safe driver and dont see myself going more than 70 to 85mph on a bike, seems plenty for me. I also would like to eventually take a trip or two up through Oregan and Washington on a bike to visit family. (about a 700-800 mile trip one way from me)

Hence my thus far never ending debate on purchasing a 300 vs a 500 wich I would like to do for this riding season
If money is not an issue I would recommend the 500 ABS. You get the extra weight and the additional 25 HP which makes passing up vehicles on the highway a lot easier.
 

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So obviously there is much debate on this vs the 500 and "out growing the 300 quickly", and "can the 300 handle the highway/long distance?"

My question is how versatile is this bike?

Ive seen plenty of debate on people saying the 300 works fine for the highway and plenty of people that says it will not.
Ive seen reports of top speeds anywhere between 75mph to almost 90mph on the 300.. Almost every highway in America speed limit isnt past 70.. yeah you wont have much passing power i get that. But plenty of power to handle the freeways I would think..

A quick search and there has been countless people that have taken old Rebel 250s across the whole country and it worked for them. Month long 5000 mile trips on a 250..Obviously not the most ideal bike for this by any means but it works? The 300 I would think is a huge upgrade from a old Rebel, a much more modern bike with a few more cc's then its older brother. Also hear the little 300 gets blown around in the wind a lot to the point its dangerous, but the 500 is only 50-60 pounds heavier, I cant see that making more than a minor difference. Obviously upgrading grips and seat will help with comfort. Seems like its great for around town but could it do some long distance highway and multi state trips occasionally? Thank you in advance
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Just an FYI, a bikes top speed does not mean anything really. What matters is acceleration. The 300 can do highway speeds like you said, but the fact is at those speed the bike does not have really any power left besides a slow acceleration. And while this is fine in most cases, it can be dangerous. Without the power to pull away and actually vary your speed the bike loses its ability to maneuver in traffic. Meaning you are stuck basically at one speed without the ability to pass or get out of harms way. And honestly even the 500 isn't the best bike when it comes to power at highway speeds, but it is quite a bit better than the 300.
If you ever have a passenger the 300 will not cut it at highway speeds at all.

As far as wind blowing you around. Both bikes are going to be blown around because they are very light. Handling the bike correctly without trying to hard to grip the bike will make it much easier on highways.
The 300 would be a great city bike. But the question really comes down to how often you are going to be at highway speeds. And honestly if it is even 20% of the time you are probably better off with the 500 if you can afford it.
 

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You don't reveal what your experience level is. Are you a new rider? Have you had many bikes?

My advice is to buy what your going to find more fun.

I've owned lots of bikes. I've only been riding over 15 years. I have both these Honda engines in cb***f models.

I bought the 300 Rebel and added it to my collection because it is more fun. The 300 can do everything the 500 can, granted maybe not as quickly. I would counter the "saftey" argument for the 500 with... "THINK!"

You don't have to put yourself in stupid situations. You could just be a careful and smart rider. People will always make an argument that you need a bigger engine to be safe. That's Bullocks. There will always be bigger engines and bigger heavier bikes than whatever you own.

Look at the 300,000 happy Grom owners. Just try to find a single review of that tiny bike that doesn't have the word fun in it. Those guys are on to it. They get it. Granted they aren't running down the highways but the truth is, the 300 Rebel will do ya just fine on the highway and carry you on your trips. That is, as long as you don't have to ride 90 mph into a head wind down a featureless interstate trying to make time.

That's not a trip. Correction, that's not a fun trip. And that's my point. Buy what is fun for you. If one doesn't have much experience or confidence the 500 probably would make a better choice for some.

But if you're like some and you know what you're doing I'd go with the smaller lighter 300. When people argue a heavier bike is better for high speed interstates it always makes me grin. I enjoy being pushed over by the wind when a huge truck roars by. Who really doesn't? It's not like you can't compensate for a brief moment and go with the flow to let it widen your grin.

Anyway, these are just my opinions on the 300 vs 500 issue. Go test ride both bikes if you can. Then you'll know. You'll know which one makes your heart race. That's the one you want.
 

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You don't reveal what your experience level is. Are you a new rider? Have you had many bikes?

My advice is to buy what your going to find more fun.

I've owned lots of bikes. I've only been riding over 15 years. I have both these Honda engines in cb***f models.

I bought the 300 Rebel and added it to my collection because it is more fun. The 300 can do everything the 500 can, granted maybe not as quickly. I would counter the "saftey" argument for the 500 with... "THINK!"

You don't have to put yourself in stupid situations. You could just be a careful and smart rider. People will always make an argument that you need a bigger engine to be safe. That's Bullocks. There will always be bigger engines and bigger heavier bikes than whatever you own.

Look at the 300,000 happy Grom owners. Just try to find a single review of that tiny bike that doesn't have the word fun in it. Those guys are on to it. They get it. Granted they aren't running down the highways but the truth is, the 300 Rebel will do ya just fine on the highway and carry you on your trips. That is, as long as you don't have to ride 90 mph into a head wind down a featureless interstate trying to make time.

That's not a trip. Correction, that's not a fun trip. And that's my point. Buy what is fun for you. If one doesn't have much experience or confidence the 500 probably would make a better choice for some.

But if you're like some and you know what you're doing I'd go with the smaller lighter 300. When people argue a heavier bike is better for high speed interstates it always makes me grin. I enjoy being pushed over by the wind when a huge truck roars by. Who really doesn't? It's not like you can't compensate for a brief moment and go with the flow to let it widen your grin.

Anyway, these are just my opinions on the 300 vs 500 issue. Go test ride both bikes if you can. Then you'll know. You'll know which one makes your heart race. That's the one you want.

I am not trying to be mean here, but your post has so much wrong with it.
1. The 300 is more fun? The bike is barely lighter, and has quite a bit less power. How on earth is it more fun?
2. "Don't put yourself in stupid situations" Believe it or not no matter how careful of a rider you are, it doesn't stop other terrible drivers from doing things that put you in danger. A bigger engine being safer isn't bullocks, it is a fact if you are a decent rider.
3. "People argue a heavier bike is better for high speed interstates." You know who doesn't like having wind knock your bike all over the road? Basically everyone on earth. Heavier bikes are better on highways and interstate, and that is another FACT. But the Rebel 500 will not really have an advantage as far as not being blown around compared to the 300.
4. "The 300 can do everything the 500 can but not as quickly" The speed and power difference is literally everything, so saying that makes no sense. And beyond that the 500 will do everything the 300 can smoother.

Neither bike has ungodly power and speed, they would both be fine for a beginner. But the fact is the 500 can do everything the 300 can.... but better.
 

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No matter how positive most posts are there is always a short critic to throw cold water on good ideas.

Remember he is the guy that told us how good the seats were from Thailand.

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No matter how positive most posts are there is always a short critic to throw cold water on good ideas.

Remember he is the guy that told us how good the seats were from Thailand.

Kenny G
Nah I never said they were good, I said you were an idiot for wanting to ride on the passenger seat.
 

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No matter how positive most posts are there is always a short critic to throw cold water on good ideas.

Remember he is the guy that told us how good the seats were from Thailand.

Kenny G
And to clear this up, a positive post does not mean it is a good post. I am not trying to screw with people but I am telling the truth in my posts.
 

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I am not trying to be mean here, but your post has so much wrong with it.
1. The 300 is more fun? The bike is barely lighter, and has quite a bit less power. How on earth is it more fun?
2. "Don't put yourself in stupid situations" Believe it or not no matter how careful of a rider you are, it doesn't stop other terrible drivers from doing things that put you in danger. A bigger engine being safer isn't bullocks, it is a fact if you are a decent rider.
3. "People argue a heavier bike is better for high speed interstates." You know who doesn't like having wind knock your bike all over the road? Basically everyone on earth. Heavier bikes are better on highways and interstate, and that is another FACT. But the Rebel 500 will not really have an advantage as far as not being blown around compared to the 300.
4. "The 300 can do everything the 500 can but not as quickly" The speed and power difference is literally everything, so saying that makes no sense. And beyond that the 500 will do everything the 300 can smoother.

Neither bike has ungodly power and speed, they would both be fine for a beginner. But the fact is the 500 can do everything the 300 can.... but better.
Uh, I'm not trying to be mean here either but for you I will reiterate.
1 You missed the point of the 300,000 Grom owners that adore a much smaller engine. Tell me you never heard the phrase it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.
2 If you know what your doing you can minimize what "terrible drivers" can do to you. Don't we learn that in our learning classes with even smaller bikes?
3 Wrong. Heavier bikes on the interstate? Might as well be in a cage. I go out and ride when it's windy just for the rush. It's called fun. I apologize but I've never been blown off the road and crashed. If you don't recognize what I'm trying to say, you're doing it wrong or you're just too skeerd.
4 Sorry, nope. I speak from experience. I own a cb300f and a cb500f. I'm telling you the 300 is way more fun. Maybe it's because I ride in cities and urban areas but I get to do more with the 300 engine.

"And beyond that the 500 will do everything the 300 can smoother."

You just added to my point on why I believe the 500 engine is BORING.

Wrong - the 300 is more fun if you're skilled enough to do more with less. Simple as that.

Again no offense to you but I did say this was my opinion to the OP on the 300 vs 500 issue... and I do enjoy a good debate, but you're not going to change my mind. Sorry.
 

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Uh, I'm not trying to be mean here either but for you I will reiterate.
1 You missed the point of the 300,000 Grom owners that adore a much smaller engine. Tell me you never heard the phrase it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.
2 If you know what your doing you can minimize what "terrible drivers" can do to you. Don't we learn that in our learning classes with even smaller bikes?
3 Wrong. Heavier bikes on the interstate? Might as well be in a cage. I go out and ride when it's windy just for the rush. It's called fun. I apologize but I've never been blown off the road and crashed. If you don't recognize what I'm trying to say, you're doing it wrong or you're just too skeerd.
4 Sorry, nope. I speak from experience. I own a cb300f and a cb500f. I'm telling you the 300 is way more fun. Maybe it's because I ride in cities and urban areas but I get to do more with the 300 engine.

"And beyond that the 500 will do everything the 300 can smoother."

You just added to my point on why I believe the 500 engine is BORING.

Wrong - the 300 is more fun if you're skilled enough to do more with less. Simple as that.

Again no offense to you but I did say this was my opinion to the OP on the 300 vs 500 issue... and I do enjoy a good debate, but you're not going to change my mind. Sorry.
How are you comparing the Grom which is basically a glorified mini bike to the 300 being fun in the same chassis as the 500. I don't disagree that small engines are fun. I disagree that the 300 is more fun that bike that can do everything better.
 

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How are you comparing the Grom which is basically a glorified mini bike to the 300 being fun in the same chassis as the 500. I don't disagree that small engines are fun. I disagree that the 300 is more fun that bike that can do everything better.
I'm saying I get to wind up the 300 engine and play the gears like a harp player strumming the strings. If I did that with the 500 I would be a danger to everyone around me. Ha-ha

I'm using the Grom as that "drive it like you stole it" wonderful heart racing feeling as an example of why I feel the 300 let's you do more than the 500 without getting in too much trouble or drawing the wrong kind of attention.

My point is I like riding around with the smaller Rebel engine because IT'S MORE FUN! 0:)
 

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As stated, top speed isn't everything. I did get my rebel up to 92mph. The true fact is that both of these options will pick you up to speed at any stop light faster than traffic. And to be honest, cruising at 60mph on the free way in 6th gear, passing a car is just a down shift away. And if you're looking far enough ahead and being vigilant, you should have plenty of time to do so in case of an emergency. I ride with guys who are on 650-800cc bikes, and I can say that I'm having just as much fun as they are. And if the ground clearance on the foot controls was higher up, I'd be just as confidant through the twisties.

I chose the 300 because it was a great price for what you get and the 500 doesnt come in white.
 

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If I planned on doing a lot of interstate long-distance riding, I'd skip the rebel and look for something with a little more heft.
As mentioned, the 300 and 500 are both light and can wear you out on a long ride (700-800 one way trips as you stated), not to mention the cramped position if you're not under 5'5".
Can either of the bikes do it? Yes. Is there better options out there that can do it and be more comfortable? absolutely.

But, if you mostly plan on riding in town with a once in a while long trip, either the 300 or 500 would fit the bill.
I have a 300 and ride home on the highway from work. speed limit is 55mph, but as you're probably know the flow of traffic is more like 70mph.
The 300 can keep up and pass no problem. If anything it makes me a safer rider because I know I need that extra bit of room to pass and I'm less likely to make risky maneuvers.

If money wasn't an issue, get the 500. If it is, get the 300.
 

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I got my Iron Ass Award riding a 350CC BSA Gold Star Single from Lancaster Pennsylvania to Daytona Beach Florida many years ago. Daytona was only 950 miles from my home and many years I made it in less than 24 hours. The best time I had was 21 hours and that year I managed to have enough stamina to ride 25 miles south of Daytona and turn around and return to Daytona to get the full 1000 miles. This was before Interstates and Rt. 301 was modern by that days standards.

I didn't have a Smart Phone or a GPS, just a paper map from the Mobil Gas Station near where I lived. If you are smart you will make do with what you have and not envy those that have bigger and better. I made that trip a total of 20 times and the biggest motorcycle I ever had was a Sportster Iron 883 and none of the bikes had electric starters. Most of the trips were made on a 750 CC Norton Interstate. My only luxury on those trips was a knapsack full of American Cheese & Bacon Sandwiches and Pint Cartons of Chocolate Milk.

It is better to be a has been than a has never.

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I got my Iron Ass Award riding a 350CC BSA Gold Star Single from Lancaster Pennsylvania to Daytona Beach Florida many years ago. Daytona was only 950 miles from my home and many years I made it in less than 24 hours. The best time I had was 21 hours and that year I managed to have enough stamina to ride 25 miles south of Daytona and turn around and return to Daytona to get the full 1000 miles. This was before Interstates and Rt. 301 was modern by that days standards.

I didn't have a Smart Phone or a GPS, just a paper map from the Mobil Gas Station near where I lived. If you are smart you will make do with what you have and not envy those that have bigger and better. I made that trip a total of 20 times and the biggest motorcycle I ever had was a Sportster Iron 883 and none of the bikes had electric starters. Most of the trips were made on a 750 CC Norton Interstate. My only luxury on those trips was a knapsack full of American Cheese & Bacon Sandwiches and Pint Cartons of Chocolate Milk.

It is better to be a has been than a has never.

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you're a legend Kenny :)
 

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Don't feel bad about debating. I have a 2015 Honda Rebel 250 and I too have been contemplating between a 300 and 500 ABS. Mainly due to the many updated features to the new Rebel and I think it would have a better ride. For me it boils down to Money, and vibrations at highway speeds. I have been told the 500 is far less "Buzzy" then the 300. I also am only 5'3 and heavy set currently. So worry about wind, hills, etc. I don't think I'd do a lot of highway driving but maybe I might. I am 56 years old now and have own 2-two wheelers so far and a Can-Am Spyder. That is so I can ride two-up with my wife who is 5'10"! Anyway, I had a Suzuki S50 Boulevard, which was a nice bike but a tad too heavy for me and I didn't feel as comfortable on it so I traded "DOWN" to the Rebel 250. I would love to get out and ride more but have no one else to go riding with let alone when it gets hot and humid in Kansas who wants to put gear on and go ride? Especially someone like me who perspires too much! Thanks Mom! Gad! Anyway, I like the 2018 Rebel 500 ABS as it now comes in silver but just am having a tuff time with the $$$ differences and making that decision. Like I said I think the ride will be better regardless of a 300 or 500 and fuel injected, water cooled, etc. is a plus. That's my two cents for what that might be worth in today's Society! Good luck to you however. I know it's a tough decision to do through.
 

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Don't feel bad about debating. I have a 2015 Honda Rebel 250 and I too have been contemplating between a 300 and 500 ABS. Mainly due to the many updated features to the new Rebel and I think it would have a better ride. For me it boils down to Money, and vibrations at highway speeds. I have been told the 500 is far less "Buzzy" then the 300. I also am only 5'3 and heavy set currently. So worry about wind, hills, etc. I don't think I'd do a lot of highway driving but maybe I might. I am 56 years old now and have own 2-two wheelers so far and a Can-Am Spyder. That is so I can ride two-up with my wife who is 5'10"! Anyway, I had a Suzuki S50 Boulevard, which was a nice bike but a tad too heavy for me and I didn't feel as comfortable on it so I traded "DOWN" to the Rebel 250. I would love to get out and ride more but have no one else to go riding with let alone when it gets hot and humid in Kansas who wants to put gear on and go ride? Especially someone like me who perspires too much! Thanks Mom! Gad! Anyway, I like the 2018 Rebel 500 ABS as it now comes in silver but just am having a tuff time with the $$$ differences and making that decision. Like I said I think the ride will be better regardless of a 300 or 500 and fuel injected, water cooled, etc. is a plus. That's my two cents for what that might be worth in today's Society! Good luck to you however. I know it's a tough decision to do through.
Elem,

You are the only one that can make this decision. You can listen to the rest of us rant about how wise we are, but in the end you will be riding your new Rebel. If I were buying this year, rather than last year when I purchased my Rebel, I would be watching for a used 300. There will be a lot of them around by the end of this riding season because the young guys want Harleys and the old guys will wonder what they are doing on a motorcycle.

Good Luck,

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I remember when I was reading Zen and the Art of motorcycle maintenance, and I realized how small those bikes were. Modern bikes like the rebel 300 will do just fine on highways and long trips. The only real question is how comfortable it will be.
 
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