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I've teared apart the back fender here for the sole purpose of fitting these:
Set Of 4 Black CNC Machined Billet Alum Custom Integrated Front & Rear Turn Signals - MAX-INC AUSTRALIA
And the thought had from the start been to mount them at the rear mounting point of the bolts on the fender.
However, the brackets on the bike, and the structural part of the fender, combined they both build 2,2 cm/ 0,86 inch. So to mount the indicators with a nut, you'd need minimum 3 cm/1.18 inch rod on them to be able to pass through it all, and to be able to fasten it with a nut. It's the bare minimum.
So sadly, my indicators only have a 2 cm rod on them. The thread on them though did screw into the nut for the fender bolt. I'm gonna try for fun to screw them in and see how they line up. I'm not expecting them to be pointing the right way thou when tightened...
So I'll be mounting them to the back of the brackets instead, which actually is beneficial for four reasons actually:
1 - It saves me a lot of hassle to get it to work by using the rear mounting hole for the fender.
2 - It makes the wiring way easier, as it becomes more "plug and play" kinda set up.
3 - You're able to remove the back fender itself without having to remove the indicator/wires
4 - The ease and fact that it's smooth sailing to mount the indicators on the bracket. At the very back of them, on the inside of them, there is a "dimple" inwards, where it's more than enough place for the rod and a nut.

I'm still curious as heck to as how others have managed to use the rear fender bolt to mount indicators! It's bothering me a little. The only way possible ways I see are either: They have after marked indicators with long enough rod/bolt to make it through the whole piece with thread to screw a nut onto. Or, they have actually screwed them into the original threads and luckily? managed to have them point the right way? I dunno, I don't get it...

Will hopefully be able to get the indicators up and running tomorrow, so I'll keep you posted on the progress!
 

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Yup. I see that as a problem for this application. Fortunately, for me, my father-in-law had a longer bolt hollowed out for me. Works like a charm! Hoping to finish them up soon.


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Yup. I see that as a problem for this application. Fortunately, for me, my father-in-law had a longer bolt hollowed out for me. Works like a charm! Hoping to finish them up soon.


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Lucky b'astard...:p How where you able to swap out the bolt with a longer one?!
 

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Lucky b'astard...:p How where you able to swap out the bolt with a longer one?!
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He found same size but longer solid bolt and machine shop hollowed it out (as far as I know anyway). It is actually a tad bit bigger in diameter but better quality. Perfect size.


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He found same size but longer solid bolt and machine shop hollowed it out (as far as I know anyway). It is actually a tad bit bigger in diameter but better quality. Perfect size.
Ah, I see. Yeah if only I had a lathe machine myself, I could do the same.. Oh well, I've got the new lights mounted onto the bike today, so I'm happy :grin2:
 

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I'm curious about how you did the wiring. Why does the turn signal lights on the rebel have three wires each? I understand three wires for the brake light because you also have the running light.
 

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I'm curious about how you did the wiring. Why does the turn signal lights on the rebel have three wires each? I understand three wires for the brake light because you also have the running light.
I'm not done with the wiring yet, work in progress :p Barely got started on the wiring today, but had to call it quits when my fingers was more blue than skin color :| Still freezing temperature here, and a bit of wind today as well, so yeah.. It's bloody cold...
But not to worry, I'll be making a detailed documentary of the progress :laugh:

Ah, the indicators at the front has 3 wires, but not those as the rear! The front ones are: 1 for ground, 1 for the blinking/indicating, and one for Daytime Running Light :wink2:
 

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I'm not done with the wiring yet, work in progress :p Barely got started on the wiring today, but had to call it quits when my fingers was more blue than skin color :| Still freezing temperature here, and a bit of wind today as well, so yeah.. It's bloody cold...
But not to worry, I'll be making a detailed documentary of the progress :laugh:

Ah, the indicators at the front has 3 wires, but not those as the rear! The front ones are: 1 for ground, 1 for the blinking/indicating, and one for Daytime Running Light :wink2:


Not sure what you're doing for tail light but I cut the angled piece off of the original brick mount and welded it would n to my new mount. No need to drill new holes. I can use the original holes and screws.


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Not sure what you're doing for tail light but I cut the angled piece off of the original brick mount and welded it would n to my new mount. No need to drill new holes. I can use the original holes and screws.
I'll give you a hint: There is a link at the top:wink2:
My new setup will be a indicator housing that has all the lights needed: Driving light, brake light, and ofc indication.

As for the mount, I'll be using the stock one for now. But yeah, I've had the same thought as you've done. Also debating weather or not to skip the whole bracket, and just use the little flip that sticks out from the back of the fender.
I'll see how I'm digging the placement with the stock bracket for now.
 

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I'll give you a hint: There is a link at the top:wink2:
My new setup will be a indicator housing that has all the lights needed: Driving light, brake light, and ofc indication.

As for the mount, I'll be using the stock one for now. But yeah, I've had the same thought as you've done. Also debating weather or not to skip the whole bracket, and just use the little flip that sticks out from the back of the fender.
I'll see how I'm digging the placement with the stock bracket for now.


Nice. I thought about an integrated system but like the idea of having a dedicated stop light. Too many idiots on the road! Didn’t want to confuse them!


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Nice. I thought about an integrated system but like the idea of having a dedicated stop light. Too many idiots on the road! Didn’t want to confuse them!
Yeah, the thought has crossed my mind. So I'll try it out like this and see, maybe down the road I'll add a dedicated stop light.
 

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Alright everyone, that's the new back light mod DONE!:grin2:
It was a bit of a pain, I'll tell you that right away...

I did try screwing these lights into where the rear fender bolt is. It was perfect on the left side, didn't work out on the right side unfortunately...
So, the plan was to mount them aaaall the way at the back end of the brackets, but after "trying it on" I found that I wasn't loving it... I quite liked it in the fender bolt hole.
So! There was only one thing to do, and that was to go with the next best thing - Right behind it.
As thought as said as done.
Didn't want the new wires to be more exposed inside the fender than necessary, so I opted to run them straight upwards between the brackets and the structural piece. Was a tight fit, so had to grind off a bit of the brackets to make room for the wires
I used the original wires to connect everything, as it was the fastest and simplest way to do this. I would ideally had wanted wires that was long enough from the new lights to reach all the way to the connection box, but alas, the aftermarket people never seem to think that far...
It was a bit of a pain to get everything connected underneath the fender, and to get it all to fit afterwards. It is TIGHT under there...!:|
I also wounded up having to do just about everything twice...
No I didn't wire anything wrong, but I took it for granted that there would be more room at the back of the fender than was there actually was...
So I had to rid apart everything and start wiring everything together again from scratch... Yey me..!:crying:
So I had to split the wires instead of having everything on the same side. Laid the wires for the right side indicator over to the right side of the fender, and stretched two new wires with those.
I then had to make a new hole to get the wires into the bike. Just drilled out a bit of the plastic cover, and inserted a rubber sealant.

The indicator wires was easy enough, as you obviously have two of those from before, one on each side.
But for the driving light and braking light I had to run two new wires, since my first try and plan failed.
I wounded up wiring those underneath the seat right where the connection box is.

I only did a quick test to see that everything was working, and it's working perfect!
Didn't get any shots of it when in working order as I was already over my next project here, but it'll come eventually!:grin2:

Next on the list is the front indicators!
 

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lotta good info there Lyoko, well done! if you get a chance take a pic or 2 with the lights in operation? I probably wont' be able to go that route because i'll be using those holes to mount the Hepco and Becker bags eventually
 

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lotta good info there Lyoko, well done! if you get a chance take a pic or 2 with the lights in operation? I probably wont' be able to go that route because i'll be using those holes to mount the Hepco and Becker bags eventually
Thank you, thank you!
Ofc I will, just gotta get the whole bike finished first and back to running order
Yeah that's the big downside with this, can't mount saddle bags on it now. But I never want such bags on it, so doesn't matter for me!

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Ok. Maybe someone could shed a light for me. I hooked up my last front turn signal with much excitement! When I turned on the turn signal the correct side flashed brightly as it should but the other side flashed dim! The rear lights also came on as running lights when all four were hooked up. I did replace the relay too. Woe is me!


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Ok. Maybe someone could shed a light for me. I hooked up my last front turn signal with much excitement! When I turned on the turn signal the correct side flashed brightly as it should but the other side flashed dim! The rear lights also came on as running lights when all four were hooked up. I did replace the relay too. Woe is me!
What the....??
Your relay might be a faulty one? I would swap back to the original to see if the problem is still there.
Do you happen to have a link for the relay you used, maybe you have the wrong one even?
 
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