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So I went to my dealer today to get some spare fluid for the coolant, since it's a little on the low side.
And they gave me a bright yellow coolant, but there is a blue coolant on the bike now.
I asked again and again, if they are absolutely sure that I can mix the two, and they claim that it won't cause any problem, that it's nothing to worry about.

Well now... I've been driving cars for some time now, and if it's something I've learnt, it is that you never ever wanna mix two different coolant fluids inside the system.
Here it's pretty simple, you've got a Red coolant, and a Blue one. If the car uses Red, then use Red. Is it Blue, then use Blue. The end. That simple. Just NEVER mix them.

So yeah, ofc I'm gonna be pretty darn sceptical here when they say "it's fine"
I ofc wanna trust my dealership and their expertice, and be able to take their word for it.
But the anxiety inside me is screaming by the thought of mixing two different fluids here..

So anyone more knowledable than me here on this matter that may shine some light upon this?

I tried looking in the handbook in regars of spesification needed for the coolant, to see if it's the same on the bottle I got, but it doesn't say anything about it in the book.
It just recommends Honda original, and should be 50/50 mix, or so and so depending on clima etc...
 

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Can I mix different colors?
The ultimate answer is no. Mixing different styles of coolant can lead to accelerated degradation of your cooling system and can cause all sorts of problems. To best understand this, it’s a good idea to do a quick explanation of what the different types are. Coolant color is NOT a sure fire way to tell what kind of coolant is in the car, the type of corrosion inhibitors used ARE.

https://www.eeuroparts.com/blog/2479/green-orange-yellow-blue-color-coolant-buy/
 

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Personally wouldn't do it even though I have no idea if it'll negatively affect an engine or not. Back in the day, different colors indicated different chemical characteristics and I don't know enough about chemistry to mix them.

Maybe you can try calling another dealer and ask for a second opinion?
 

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So I went to my dealer today to get some spare fluid for the coolant, since it's a little on the low side.
And they gave me a bright yellow coolant, but there is a blue coolant on the bike now.
I asked again and again, if they are absolutely sure that I can mix the two, and they claim that it won't cause any problem, that it's nothing to worry about.

Well now... I've been driving cars for some time now, and if it's something I've learnt, it is that you never ever wanna mix two different coolant fluids inside the system.
Here it's pretty simple, you've got a Red coolant, and a Blue one. If the car uses Red, then use Red. Is it Blue, then use Blue. The end. That simple. Just NEVER mix them.

So yeah, ofc I'm gonna be pretty darn sceptical here when they say "it's fine"
I ofc wanna trust my dealership and their expertice, and be able to take their word for it.
But the anxiety inside me is screaming by the thought of mixing two different fluids here..

So anyone more knowledable than me here on this matter that may shine some light upon this?

I tried looking in the handbook in regars of spesification needed for the coolant, to see if it's the same on the bottle I got, but it doesn't say anything about it in the book.
It just recommends Honda original, and should be 50/50 mix, or so and so depending on clima etc...
Lyoko,

If you have Amazon in Norway they handle a lot of Honda Products here in the U.S.

I wouldn't put any fluid in less than what Honda recommends, dealers only recommend what they make the most money on.

Kenny G
 

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This is kinda proving to be a real pain in the ..... Fill in the blank.
Every single bit of information I try to find inside Norway just leads down to the words:"See your local dealer for more info in regards of products and such"
A main Honda Office in Norway apparantly doesn't exsist.. Bah.. And as far as I know, I believe I've found the genuine coolant from Honda elsewhere, but none who ship to where I am, so yeah... F me, right?
But I still can't find the actuall spesification for the genuine coolant, to even see if the one I have match up there at least.
 

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Lyoko,

All I can find is "Recommended Coolant" Pro Honda Coolant is a pre-mixed solution of antifreeze and distilled water.

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Yeah that's just about all I can find too, Kenny.

I've found some sites inside Norway where I can enter the info of the bike, and the coolant I've got popps up. It does say at the back "Compatible with all cooling fluids"
So I dunno guys.. Still reluctant to mix two different colors coolant here. But things do point towards it being ok to mix, apparantly.
I've sent some e-mails here and there, to hopefully get some other educated answer on this, so guess I'll wait and see.
 

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Yeah that's just about all I can find too, Kenny.

I've found some sites inside Norway where I can enter the info of the bike, and the coolant I've got popps up. It does say at the back "Compatible with all cooling fluids"
So I dunno guys.. Still reluctant to mix two different colors coolant here. But things do point towards it being ok to mix, apparantly.
I've sent some e-mails here and there, to hopefully get some other educated answer on this, so guess I'll wait and see.
Lyoko,

How much trouble would it be to drain the cooling system and start with fresh coolant that is made for aluminum engines?

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Lyoko,

How much trouble would it be to drain the cooling system and start with fresh coolant that is made for aluminum engines?

Kenny G
Ugg, more throuble than what it's worth at this point..
The bike is brand new for petes sake, coolant fluid last at least 3 years from what I'm reading. Some even say 4-5 years.
But according to the manual the service interval says to change after 3 years.
So yeah, ain't gonna be bothered about starting to change it now when the bike is barely 6 months old even.

If I'm not convinced that it's ok to use the coolant I've gotten, then I should be able to source up the genuin coolant on Ebay or some other place that will ship all over the place.
 

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Ugg, more throuble than what it's worth at this point..
The bike is brand new for petes sake, coolant fluid last at least 3 years from what I'm reading. Some even say 4-5 years.
But according to the manual the service interval says to change after 3 years.
So yeah, ain't gonna be bothered about starting to change it now when the bike is barely 6 months old even.

If I'm not convinced that it's ok to use the coolant I've gotten, then I should be able to source up the genuin coolant on Ebay or some other place that will ship all over the place.

Is your coolant actually so low as to need additional? like how low is it? Isn't the "low" bar on the reservoir anyways? Isn't that like, extra coolant? I'm not sure you really need to even add any!!


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I mix colors on my windshield washer fluid.

Green anti-bug stuff when the weather starts to get warm...

Standard blue when it starts to cool off again...

Yellow no-ice type when it starts to get cold...

No emptying the reservoir for the changeovers, either.

Yeah, I live life on the edge lol

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I mix colors on my windshield washer fluid.

Green anti-bug stuff when the weather starts to get warm...

Standard blue when it starts to cool off again...

Yellow no-ice type when it starts to get cold...

No emptying the reservoir for the changeovers, either.

Yeah, I live life on the edge lol

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Where'd you get that add on? I'd love to put a wiper on but I'm not sure where To mount the reservoir or switch...


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blinker fluid also comes in a variety of colors - and is mixable.
On my previous bikes I've always used red fluid in the left blinker and green in the right one, but never mixed them.

However on this bike they are all orange. Did the dealers mix them by mistake?
 

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On my previous bikes I've always used red fluid in the left blinker and green in the right one, but never mixed them.

However on this bike they are all orange. Did the dealers mix them by mistake?
Don't know. Could be they are using the newer formulation that reduces wear and tear on the flash-synchro's and maintains thixotropy under harsh conditions.
 

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Don't know. Could be they are using the newer formulation that reduces wear and tear on the flash-synchro's and maintains thixotropy under harsh conditions.
Ah yes, I think that's what aviation changed over to for their navigation lights.

I still remember back in the day being sent to supply to get a pint of green nav light fluid.

How times have changed.
 

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Is your coolant actually so low as to need additional? like how low is it? Isn't the "low" bar on the reservoir anyways? Isn't that like, extra coolant? I'm not sure you really need to even add any!!


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The ideal is to have it at the max bar, so basically anything bellow that is "low" Does it do any harm? Not necessarily, but better safe than sorry.
And since mine is right bellow the "low" mark, then yeah, I'd say it actually necessary to top it up a little.
If you ain't sure why I would need more, then you need some more experience. This "reservoir" is an expansion tank for the radiator. It collects the overflow of cooling from the radiator when the fluid becomes too hot (to much expanded due to boiling) Thus the max mark on the tank. Also why you have a drainige tube on the tank aswell, should something be really wrong.
Also, some fluid might disperce with time, and thus it becomes less inside the system. And if there isn't any fluid awailable to replace the missing fluid, then you eventually end up with too little, and you may in worst case kill the whole engine. Like, actually kill it.
So yeah, that's where the expansion tank comes into play. It allowes you to keep an eye on how the level of fluid is with the system, and in general to see if things are ok. Say, should you some day see a slightly different colour on the fluid in the tank, then something is wrong somewhere in the system. Like if you use regular tap water instead of de-ionized water, then parts start to rust, and the fluid will turn to brown, and eventually darker.
So yeah, hope you learnt something.
 

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I mix colors on my windshield washer fluid.

Green anti-bug stuff when the weather starts to get warm...

Standard blue when it starts to cool off again...

Yellow no-ice type when it starts to get cold...

No emptying the reservoir for the changeovers, either.

Yeah, I live life on the edge lol
You are certainly living up to the Rebel mark!
Wouldn't want to cross path with you in a dark alleyway... *shivers*
 
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