Answered in order:I've been looking at engine guards lately.
Is it really useful?
Does it ruin the look of the bike or it actually does make the bike look cool?
Do I need it?
Need some suggestions and tips
Thanks and cheers!
I agree. That radiator is pretty vulnerable sticking out the sides like that. I don't plan on dropping, but when I do, I just saved myself a lot of trouble by not leaking all my water-cooling-coolant out. These H2C crashbars protect the living mist out of that vulnerable radiator. It was worth it for the peace of mind for me, and the highway legrest is an added bonus.my personal opinions: its only useful if you lay down the bike, can save on higher priced damage.
I think it changes the look of the bike (not in a good way to me)
No you don't need it. it's more of your choice, and/or piece of mind
The bike would crush your leg if you DIDN'T have them there! I call them, "ANTI-CRUSH-BARS".I call them 'Crush Bars' - will not help in a crash, might pin your leg to the bike when they collapse from impact - so not good for crash.
Thin tube sticking out the side of the bike will be the first thing to collapse. I don't believe I could predict any particular thing that could or could not happen during a crash - can you?The bike would crush your leg if you DIDN'T have them there! I call them, "ANTI-CRUSH-BARS".
I'd reckon it's a lot more likely to get a leg stuck under a bike laying flat on its side, than one-inch of round-bar holding the entire bike up 8-inches crushing your leg. I can't imagine any situation where one's leg would be that far forward.
Have you ever heard of any injuries that were worsened because of crash-bars? Any evidence? Thanks.
Interesting! I don't think these H2C would collapse though. They are STOUT! Just mild steel, sure, but thick walled tubing, shaped in a way to spread impact forces and if your accident was enough to collapse these bars, you'd surely be dead too.Crash bars are dangerous ? Duane Ausherman BMW motorcycles
"Crash bars have the prospect of protecting the lower limbs in the event of
collision with another vehicle, or during a fall to the roadway. The regions of
the body most likely to be involved are the somatic regions of the thigh (T),
knee (K), lower leg (L), and ankle-foot (9). In the 900 accident cases, there
were 1321 discrete injuries to these "protectable" regions. Table 6.12.3 shows the
distribution of these individual injuries to the protectable regions, for the 900
motorcycles with and without crash bars. The motorcycles equipped with crash bars
(16.1%) accounted for a" equivalent share (17.9%) of the injuries to those regions
of the body that are assumed to be protectable by crash bars. Consequently, no
advantage is obvious from the use of crash bars."
Not in the slightest. Think about an emergency stop. Your feet have the least forces available to slow you down. You're not going to be downshifting with your left foot if you're trying to stop as fast as you can.my serious question about using the crash bars as a foot rest..
are you at all concerned that while cruising on the highway in a sudden emergency situation (ie -deer jumps in the road or something similar), you might lose valuable seconds to move your feet back to the controls to help decelerate or downshift -since you're feet aren't ready at the gearshift or rear brake?
You put your feet back to the controls preemptively. You just stretch out on the open road, when no one's around you. It's just an extra option, you don't have to use 'em. It's nice, after miles and miles, to be able to straighten out my legs. I can stretch my hamstrings without stopping or getting off the bike. Just when I'm chillin' safe and just cruisin' it's nice to have the option to stretch. Don't have your feet up there in stop and go traffic. It's just another option for comfort.lesser yes but still 30% back there compared to the 70% in front. i'd think you'd want all available stopping power in that event. but if it's fraction of a second for you guess you're all set.
i was just curious if that was a consideration at all-since i've never used any additional forward foot rest/pegs and have no desire to.
Sorry man, but I think you overestimate you and your bodies ability to react.Also, it's milliseconds to move your feet, and I've been doing it for many years, instead of getting forward controls.
You sure do know it all, for having literally just gotten your license yesterday. Or was it the day before? Congrats on passing your class.Sorry man, but I think you overestimate you and your bodies ability to react.
The fact is it usually takes a person 1-2 seconds to recognize a dangerous situation and then another 1-3 seconds to react. Even if you were to cut those facts in half it is still nowhere close to 'milliseconds'.
Best case scenario in an emergency that you saw coming you would still take the better part of 1-2 seconds to move your leg off the bar and put them on the rear brake and only then would you start to actually apply the brake given another 1-2 seconds. Lets not forget that no rider is going to apply full front brake and zero rear brake because... well because that is very stupid and can easily lead to sending you over the bars and your bike following suit. So while 70% of the brake force comes from the front brake you need to use both brakes to stop safely and quickly.
That also assumes you see the danger coming, which lets be honest if every rider/driver saw something coming the worldwide crash statistics would be drastically lower.
I'm not trying to come down on you, but in all honesty your body simply cannot react to ANYTHING in milliseconds. Being realistic with yourself, your body, and your driving ability is a crucial part of any skill.
And as for the bars themselves they are not structural, they are not for ANY protection outside of the bike falling over or a very low speed lay down. Cheap mild steel (which all these items are, don't kid yourself) quickly and easily crushes, bends, and deforms under very little pressure. I promise you that you can stand in front of your bike and full force kick the outermost portion and bend the steel, and that force is VERY small in comparison to the force and physics when involved in any high speed lay down (speed of like 50 mph x 400+ lbs of mass = those bars will bend, brake, crush etc) or in the event of being struck by another vehicle or stationary object.
I know this post has been mostly negative, and I'm sorry. But you need to have honest and realistic expectations of you, your skill level, your bike, and your mods. Overestimating ANY of these individually or together could potentially put you in a dangerous and possibly life threatening situation.
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