[Galacticjew42]

Need to change the stock exhaust on my Rebel 500, been looking mostly at the TBR?s and the Diablo?s on YouTube. I know a few of you guys have the TBR and are satisfied with it but hearing the Diablo Dark Thunder on YouTube made me kind of fall in love with it. Anyway, It?s from a channel called K-Speed and they ship from Thailand on ebay apparently... Idk, something about t seems sketchy to me, anybody here ever buy from them? thx.

 

[RebelRider]

I bought mine via eBay. It arrived well packaged from Thailand two weeks after payment. It was very easy to install and looks/sounds great.

 

[Lyoko]

Everything with the diablo branded on it is a product they've got cheap, painted, and is re-selling at a high proffit. I would stear clear of them.

 

[Lyoko]

Take a look here

http://www.hondarebel3forum.com/forum/665-accessories-add-ons/3833-available-exhaust.html

 

[RebelRider]

Everything with the diablo branded on it is a product they've got cheap, painted, and is re-selling at a high proffit. I would stear clear of them.

You mention this in every thread about exhausts. There are plenty of riders who are happy with their Diablo exhausts. Some would rather pay a little extra than going through the hassle of getting an extra length of pipe, locating a powder coater and/or spraying it themselves.

As I posted, I'm very happy with mine and haven't had any issues. To keep seeing you write to steer clear of them because they are rebranding a cheaper exhaust is a bit silly. It's not your money people are spending on them, it's theirs. They can spend their money as they wish.

 

[Lyoko]

By all means, my word ain't the law, do whatever you please with your money. It's just my opinion, the same as your's favors towards the Diablo brand rather than against.
I just feel people should have the right to know what they're actually getting, and if it's actually worth it's price.
And you're complaining towards me again because...?

 

[Kenny G]

Lyoko,

I really value your opinion.

I have only found 2 guys in here with invalid opinions, and I think they have some kind of financial interest with the companies they defend.

Kenny G

 

[RebelRider]

By all means, my word ain't the law, do whatever you please with your money. It's just my opinion, the same as your's favors towards the Diablo brand rather than against.
I just feel people should have the right to know what they're actually getting, and if it's actually worth it's price.
And you're complaining towards me again because...?

I'm simply stating that in every thread that mentions Diablo exhaust you inform people to steer clear of them, rather than simply saying they're rebranding a cheaper exhaust and letting the interested party decide for themselves. From the posts I've read, you seem to mainly do this with Diablo. Seems like you may have an issue with them or maybe I've been misunderstanding your posts.

If the exhaust was crap, then I'd be telling people to steer clear of it.

I have zero interest in the company and if I wanted the hassle of modifying a cheaper exhaust and having to wait much longer than I did for it to be shipped and modified, then I would have purchased the cheaper version. That said, I received my exhaust in perfect condition and installed it the same day and have had more time to enjoy it. I'm not rich but for the time and hassle it would have taken to get the cheaper one looking like the Diablo one, it was money well spent in my eyes. Sanity over money.

 

[shortyg83]

I'm simply stating that in every thread that mentions Diablo exhaust you inform people to steer clear of them, rather than simply saying they're rebranding a cheaper exhaust and letting the interested party decide for themselves. From the posts I've read, you seem to mainly do this with Diablo. Seems like you may have an issue with them or maybe I've been misunderstanding your posts.

If the exhaust was crap, then I'd be telling people to steer clear of it.

I have zero interest in the company and if I wanted the hassle of modifying a cheaper exhaust and having to wait much longer than I did for it to be shipped and modified, then I would have purchased the cheaper version. That said, I received my exhaust in perfect condition and installed it the same day and have had more time to enjoy it. I'm not rich but for the time and hassle it would have taken to get the cheaper one looking like the Diablo one, it was money well spent in my eyes. Sanity over money.

I think the problem is you are thinking your exhaust is worth the mark up. It isn't. The exhaust is 5x the price of the chinese model they bought and painted. The only part that is "modified" is the 10 dollar middle pipe they seem to be shipping it. And if you get the version without that middle pipe you are litterally paying 220 dollars more to get it painted black.

 

[Galacticjew42]

Yeah, see I knew something was fishy.. I googled the ?Diablo? brand and couldn?t find anything... So pretty much what they?re doing is a scam. Taking one product, spray painting a bogus label on it, and marking it up x5... Naw, i?m not about that. I?d rather buy the original, or go with another brand... it?s the principal of the matter. Thanks Lyoko and ShortyG.

 

[Lyoko]

I think the problem is you are thinking your exhaust is worth the mark up. It isn't. The exhaust is 5x the price of the chinese model they bought and painted. The only part that is "modified" is the 10 dollar middle pipe they seem to be shipping it. And if you get the version without that middle pipe you are litterally paying 220 dollars more to get it painted black.

Thank you, my point exactly.

 

[Lyoko]

I'm simply stating that in every thread that mentions Diablo exhaust you inform people to steer clear of them, rather than simply saying they're rebranding a cheaper exhaust and letting the interested party decide for themselves. From the posts I've read, you seem to mainly do this with Diablo. Seems like you may have an issue with them or maybe I've been misunderstanding your posts.

If the exhaust was crap, then I'd be telling people to steer clear of it.

I have zero interest in the company and if I wanted the hassle of modifying a cheaper exhaust and having to wait much longer than I did for it to be shipped and modified, then I would have purchased the cheaper version. That said, I received my exhaust in perfect condition and installed it the same day and have had more time to enjoy it. I'm not rich but for the time and hassle it would have taken to get the cheaper one looking like the Diablo one, it was money well spent in my eyes. Sanity over money.

Make me aware of someone else that is doing business the same way that Diablo does, and I'll be sure to make a note of it an have a grude against them as well!
But yes, I'll be sure to include the long version as to why one should consider not to get something with the Diablo brand on it.

It's not a matter of crap or not, although it is a china make after all, so you never know..
No but the main point is the fact that they are trying to make a huge profit by simply painting it and labeling it. And that's it.

But as I said, my word ain't the law dear you, you may roam about and spend your money just as you please. Will I have my opinion on it? Yes, I will.
Should you be bothered about it? That's for you to deside.

 

[RebelRider]

I think the problem is you are thinking your exhaust is worth the mark up.

That's incorrect. I actually do think it's overpriced for what it is. With that said, my original plan was to buy the cheap Chinese one from eBay. I looked into having it powder coated and in getting the extra length of pipe. It would have looked just like the Diablo one minus the "Diablo" branding. $75 CAD for the Chinese exhaust shipped to me (that's not including the possible duty/tax for crossing the border), extra pipe was $34 (after tax), powder coating was $57 (after tax) for a total of $166 CAD. The eBay seller was also very poor at communicating.

The Diablo exhaust from k-speed is 4600 Baht which equals $170 CAD. That's not 5x more than the Chinese one. However, the shipping is what kills the pricing. eBay and K-speed both wanted around $160 to have it shipped. If a buyer knows someone in Thailand you can get it shipped for half of that.

So with the exhausts being the same price for me, having the Diablo shipped for $80 made it worthwhile. If I wanted to go through with the Chinese one I would have had to travel over an hour to the powder coater to drop it off, then go back after a week to pick it up. That's if my work schedule would have agreed. Could have been two weeks or more. So with that and over 4 hours of driving, I made the right choice for me.

 

[Kenny G]

Rider,

What you did makes sense.

Kenny

 

[Twizzian]

Can anyone confirm the Diablo's are 100% Chinese made?
I'm only asking as the Thais do make a lot of thier own cheap products for all kinds of markets.

I'm on the fence on this exhaust Diablo brand name as for me and some people it's all about 'affordability' not just quality.
K-speed items are overpriced compared to many other bike shops here I know of. For example; my LED strip light was 900 baht from them, since seen the same at many other bike shops & websites for 180-300 baht. Huge mark-up.

I wouldn't buy an Akrapovic for my Rebel if there was one as it wouldn't be in my budget, so I would consider a lesser spec or unbranded if I was sure it wouldn't damage the engine.
I've been considering the M4, which is another popular cheap exhaust in my neck of the woods here.

 

[shortyg83]

That's incorrect. I actually do think it's overpriced for what it is. With that said, my original plan was to buy the cheap Chinese one from eBay. I looked into having it powder coated and in getting the extra length of pipe. It would have looked just like the Diablo one minus the "Diablo" branding. $75 CAD for the Chinese exhaust shipped to me (that's not including the possible duty/tax for crossing the border), extra pipe was $34 (after tax), powder coating was $57 (after tax) for a total of $166 CAD. The eBay seller was also very poor at communicating.

The Diablo exhaust from k-speed is 4600 Baht which equals $170 CAD. That's not 5x more than the Chinese one. However, the shipping is what kills the pricing. eBay and K-speed both wanted around $160 to have it shipped. If a buyer knows someone in Thailand you can get it shipped for half of that.

So with the exhausts being the same price for me, having the Diablo shipped for $80 made it worthwhile. If I wanted to go through with the Chinese one I would have had to travel over an hour to the powder coater to drop it off, then go back after a week to pick it up. That's if my work schedule would have agreed. Could have been two weeks or more. So with that and over 4 hours of driving, I made the right choice for me.

The cheapest Diablo exhaust will cost $290 shipped USD.
The Cheapest Chinese one costs 50 dollars. That pipe shouldn't cost more than $10. I bought mine for 8 bucks. You could get one made at an exhaust shop for 20.
As far as powder coating, which varies. Considering how small the exhaust is should be between 20-50 usd. That makes the exhaust at the most like $100.

 

[shortyg83]

Can anyone confirm the Diablo's are 100% Chinese made?
I'm only asking as the Thais do make a lot of thier own cheap products for all kinds of markets.

I'm on the fence on this exhaust Diablo brand name as for me and some people it's all about 'affordability' not just quality.
K-speed items are overpriced compared to many other bike shops here I know of. For example; my LED strip light was 900 baht from them, since seen the same at many other bike shops & websites for 180-300 baht. Huge mark-up.

I wouldn't buy an Akrapovic for my Rebel if there was one as it wouldn't be in my budget, so I would consider a lesser spec or unbranded if I was sure it wouldn't damage the engine.
I've been considering the M4, which is another popular cheap exhaust in my neck of the woods here.

I keep seeing certain places saying that the diablo exhaust are thai made. And I just don't believe it. They are the same exact exhaust that china has been pumping out for years. The only difference is the black paint and logo.

 

[RebelRider]

The cheapest Diablo exhaust will cost $290 shipped USD.
The Cheapest Chinese one costs 50 dollars. That pipe shouldn't cost more than $10. I bought mine for 8 bucks. You could get one made at an exhaust shop for 20.
As far as powder coating, which varies. Considering how small the exhaust is should be between 20-50 usd. That makes the exhaust at the most like $100.

I listed the prices I was quoted from the closest shops in my area. Obviously, where you live the prices are different. I also listed the prices in CAD, not USD. The Chinese version would be $166 CAD after all was said and done. The Diablo was $170 CAD plus $80 CAD for shipping (had a local ship it to me). Difference between the two options was $84 CAD. With that difference, it wasn't worth it to me to do four hours of driving and having to wait much longer to be able to enjoy the exhaust.

I still agree that they are overpriced but I have zero regrets with the options I had.

 

[01-7700]

Hey guys - let's try to keep the personal attacks out of all discussions on this forum. Price vs. quality is highly subjective. What's right for one may not be right for another for a variety of reason. It is encouraged to discuss what you bought and what you think of it and why you feel that way. Telling others that they are mentally deficient for not doing as you would do will not tolerated here.

 

[RebelRider]

Hey guys - let's try to keep the personal attacks out of all discussions on this forum. Price vs. quality is highly subjective. What's right for one may not be right for another for a variety of reason. It is encouraged to discuss what you bought and what you think of it and why you feel that way. Telling others that they are mentally deficient for not doing as you would do will not tolerated here.

I appreciate the edit but I wasn't offended in any way.