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Rebel 300 to the Limit!!

Hey everyone, as post states, taking the 300 to the limit.


So yesterday, and last few days, I've been depressed. Depressed that perhaps I bought the wrong bike, not what I really wanted or looking for, just generally down in the dumps that I'm not gonna be happy with this little underpower (it seems) rebel 300.


But yesterday, yesterday ladies and gents, I was at a rest spot on a highway, just out for a lonely cruise thinking nothing but the worst of this bike, and I decided just to say screw it, lets see what this thing can really do.


Where I live, we have ALLOT of straight flat roads. It was 11pm, sun still shining, no wind, no traffic, I needed some inspiration or something.


I have always been pretty conservative since owning the bike, no reving the piss, just nice easy cruising, enjoying the fact that I can get 280kms - 175miles to a full tank, and only cost $10 to fill. But last night, last night, I needed to do something. Never stretched this bike out yet, but it was time. It was the right time.


Broke out from a start, 1st and 2nd gear, I didn't like, didn't feel anything but the awesome numbing vibration, no real pull. Hit 3rd and took it to what I thought was close to redline, since there's no tach, can only guess. Anyway, got to what I think was the last quarter of the rpm range, and it was like vtec in their civics, bike took right off. Actually had to hang on tight, lol.


Into 4th, same thing, get to the last bit of rpms and she took right off, changed gears at 95kms - 60miles, and into 5th, same thing, took right off, 5th gear took me to 140kms/hr - 90mile ish, and into 6th. 6th gear treated me a little different, didn't get that kick back I felt earlier, but it still took me to 165kms/hr - 105miles/ish. Eventually I ran out of road and pretty sure 6th had nothing more to offer me. Though it didn't actually take all that long to get there, lol.


Just so everyone knows, I was in control, maybe not me emotions, but I think the bike lol, wide open highway and no other traffic in site. lol.Don't judge.


So after that, had that big grin back on my face, bobbing my head that Honda still has something, they didn't completely disappointment me. They made a decent machine between my legs. For a little 300cc (286cc actual), I was once again, like the day I bought it, surprised. Even the notorious vibrations disappeared for that brief time.


Point of all this, you have doubts, take it to the limit, see what it can really do before passing judgment, or passing the bike off to another owner. lol. (Not that I'll get much, Harley offered $1000 max).


There is still a few setbacks despite my renewed appreciation for the bike, the seat, the hand grips, lack of accessories and mods (all on back order from dealer). Bike is too quiet, some parts just look really cheaply made, not enough power(just me jealous of all the Harley ppl I hang with), suspension too soft, the display sucks cuz it doesn't display everything I would like, the front turn signals, held in by rubber, which is starting to warp and droop, one turn signal is coming out of the rubber mounting piece, try as I might, can't get the stupid thing to stay flush.


The windscreen is a joke and a sad piece of plastic. Too tight to get anything, like the air filter!


All the cons listed, I am sure with time, can be changed, rectified, or modified. I'm impatient. lol. All and all, I'll keep the bike a little while longer yet. Gonna plan a road trip in a few weeks, see if I still feel the same after that. lol. I might have a pillow for a seat, foam tubing that covers the hand grips that you would put on copper pipes for a water heater. And a milk crate strapped on for storage, instead of the cumbersome backpack. lol.


Wow, wrote a book. Way to go me, and feel bad for the blokes reading it too. lol. Enjoy!!! Reply as you feel, pos or con, I'll take it in stride. Cheers!!
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I found it to be an interesting read this.
I kinda share how you feel, as the Rebel wasn't the bike I was supposed to get. It wasn't my first choise, but it ended up being my only choise, and thus..

But I'm surpriced to read that you managed to get your 300 up to 165km/h?!
Not sure why, or where I have it from, but I had it before me that the 500's top speed was in the 160 range. Seriously makes me curiouse to as what the 500's real top speed is then..?!
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First of all...I'm jealous cause I can only get my Rebel 300 up to 79-80mph. Might be a slight incline on my roads or strong winds...or weight most likely.
I'm going through the same phase of buyers remorse, but realistically the 300 is all I really need. I rarely if ever ride highway, but whenever I do it cruises 70 mph comfortably all day.

Not sure where you're ordering your parts, but I've gotten all factory options I've ordered from ebay within a week of placing the order.
As far as storage you might want to invest in the same saddlebags I've bought (vikingbags), cheap and offers decent space.
For vibration I use Joe Rocket Eclipse gloves w/ gel padding in the palm, really don't feel any discomfort.
Seat comfort hasn't been an issue for me, so can't comment on that.

I agree the bike is WAY WAY WAY too quiet. I'm honestly not even surprised when people accidentally merge into my lane, bike is near silent w/ wind noise.
I'll be shopping around for a cheaper alternative for a slip on, under $100 so stay tuned if interested.
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I found it to be an interesting read this.
I kinda share how you feel, as the Rebel wasn't the bike I was supposed to get. It wasn't my first choise, but it ended up being my only choise, and thus..

But I'm surpriced to read that you managed to get your 300 up to 165km/h?!
Not sure why, or where I have it from, but I had it before me that the 500's top speed was in the 160 range. Seriously makes me curiouse to as what the 500's real top speed is then..?!
The actual top speed on the two bikes is going to very similar and depend on rider weight. The difference will be in how much power you have at those speeds over 50mph.
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Hey everyone, as post states, taking the 300 to the limit.


So yesterday, and last few days, I've been depressed. Depressed that perhaps I bought the wrong bike, not what I really wanted or looking for, just generally down in the dumps that I'm not gonna be happy with this little underpower (it seems) rebel 300.


But yesterday, yesterday ladies and gents, I was at a rest spot on a highway, just out for a lonely cruise thinking nothing but the worst of this bike, and I decided just to say screw it, lets see what this thing can really do.


Where I live, we have ALLOT of straight flat roads. It was 11pm, sun still shining, no wind, no traffic, I needed some inspiration or something.


I have always been pretty conservative since owning the bike, no reving the piss, just nice easy cruising, enjoying the fact that I can get 280kms - 175miles to a full tank, and only cost $10 to fill. But last night, last night, I needed to do something. Never stretched this bike out yet, but it was time. It was the right time.


Broke out from a start, 1st and 2nd gear, I didn't like, didn't feel anything but the awesome numbing vibration, no real pull. Hit 3rd and took it to what I thought was close to redline, since there's no tach, can only guess. Anyway, got to what I think was the last quarter of the rpm range, and it was like vtec in their civics, bike took right off. Actually had to hang on tight, lol.


Into 4th, same thing, get to the last bit of rpms and she took right off, changed gears at 95kms - 60miles, and into 5th, same thing, took right off, 5th gear took me to 140kms/hr - 90mile ish, and into 6th. 6th gear treated me a little different, didn't get that kick back I felt earlier, but it still took me to 165kms/hr - 105miles/ish. Eventually I ran out of road and pretty sure 6th had nothing more to offer me. Though it didn't actually take all that long to get there, lol.


Just so everyone knows, I was in control, maybe not me emotions, but I think the bike lol, wide open highway and no other traffic in site. lol.Don't judge.


So after that, had that big grin back on my face, bobbing my head that Honda still has something, they didn't completely disappointment me. They made a decent machine between my legs. For a little 300cc (286cc actual), I was once again, like the day I bought it, surprised. Even the notorious vibrations disappeared for that brief time.


Point of all this, you have doubts, take it to the limit, see what it can really do before passing judgment, or passing the bike off to another owner. lol. (Not that I'll get much, Harley offered $1000 max).


There is still a few setbacks despite my renewed appreciation for the bike, the seat, the hand grips, lack of accessories and mods (all on back order from dealer). Bike is too quiet, some parts just look really cheaply made, not enough power(just me jealous of all the Harley ppl I hang with), suspension too soft, the display sucks cuz it doesn't display everything I would like, the front turn signals, held in by rubber, which is starting to warp and droop, one turn signal is coming out of the rubber mounting piece, try as I might, can't get the stupid thing to stay flush.


The windscreen is a joke and a sad piece of plastic. Too tight to get anything, like the air filter!


All the cons listed, I am sure with time, can be changed, rectified, or modified. I'm impatient. lol. All and all, I'll keep the bike a little while longer yet. Gonna plan a road trip in a few weeks, see if I still feel the same after that. lol. I might have a pillow for a seat, foam tubing that covers the hand grips that you would put on copper pipes for a water heater. And a milk crate strapped on for storage, instead of the cumbersome backpack. lol.


Wow, wrote a book. Way to go me, and feel bad for the blokes reading it too. lol. Enjoy!!! Reply as you feel, pos or con, I'll take it in stride. Cheers!!
Just want to comment on some of your set backs.

1. The seat: while it isn't the best seat in the world I don't see a bike in that price range coming with anything better stock. The bike was really made as a city cruiser, and in the city on short rides the seat is actually perfectly fine.

2. Grips: to be honest, even though i changed them, the grips are top notch. They may not be the best looking thing out there but they have great actual grip. I'd take them over the terrible cushy rubber I've seen come on Harley any day.

Speedo: for everyone who complains about good speedometer, no one seems to realize it does more than any cruiser in is class. The Harley street which is the bikes direct competitor has nothing besides speed. No gas gauge. Cruisers don't come with tachs or gear indicators normally.

The suspension to me could be better. You can get adjustable fork caps very cheap to improve the front suspension.

And are you saying Harley offered you 1k for your rebel? If so they did that to insult you and make their product seem that much better. I would have told them to screw off.
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I think most people go through these phases after riding their bikes for a bit.
My buddy has a newer Harley Iron 883. I've ridden it a couple times and the power difference is tremendous when compared to the rebel 300.
But...it's much heavier, tank is lower so feels like you're sitting "on" the bike rather than "in" the bike like the rebel accomplishes.
Oh, and yea we get almost twice their gas mileage. After a while I missed being on my Rebel and was happier on it, despite being slower.

Classic case of "greener on the other side of the fence".
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anyone sitting on the fence about the 300 or 500 might have an easier decision because of your write-up - well done @macjosh1

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Your not the only one talking about how underpowered the 300 is and odds are Honda is well aware of it. Most 300's will end up in the city as commuters, anyone serious about performance and wants the best of low end and top end performance will go 500. Its the harsh truth about 300's.
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anyone sitting on the fence about the 300 or 500 might have an easier decision because of your write-up - well done @macjosh1
Thank-you and everyone else for the feedback. Glad to know I'm not the only one scratching the head on the decision on the new rebel. lol. All and all, end of the day, I am kinda glad I got the 300 and not the 500. Looking at the spec and all the reviews, there is honestly not much of a difference between the two models. The 500 has, of course, higher cc's, but other than that, basically the same. Your paying 2k extra for a few more cc's, and, correct me if I am wrong, the 500 only has a few more torque more than the 300. Might be setup for better highway comfort, but still, vibrations can be managed with the right mods. I'm still doing research into parts etc. I live in Canada, and exchange/shipping is almost worth more than what the part is worth.


If someone has doubts, like I did, on what the 300 can do, think I just proved that the 300 can do more than what seems possible for a small cc bike. lol.
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Thank-you and everyone else for the feedback. Glad to know I'm not the only one scratching the head on the decision on the new rebel. lol. All and all, end of the day, I am kinda glad I got the 300 and not the 500. Looking at the spec and all the reviews, there is honestly not much of a difference between the two models. The 500 has, of course, higher cc's, but other than that, basically the same. Your paying 2k extra for a few more cc's, and, correct me if I am wrong, the 500 only has a few more torque more than the 300. Might be setup for better highway comfort, but still, vibrations can be managed with the right mods. I'm still doing research into parts etc. I live in Canada, and exchange/shipping is almost worth more than what the part is worth.


If someone has doubts, like I did, on what the 300 can do, think I just proved that the 300 can do more than what seems possible for a small cc bike. lol.
A couple hundred more cc's. I love my 5. It's so beastly
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