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Old 05-12-2017, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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Shifting points

So I figured I would start a thread to see what speeds people are using to shift.
At a normal acceleration mine are as follows.

Rebel 500
1st to 2nd: 15 mph
2nd to 3rd: 23-25 mph
3rd to 4th: 32-35 mph
4th to 5th: 40-43 mph
5th to 6th: 48-50 mph

Now this is just while accelerating at a normal traffic pace. If you are riding more laid back you can shift much earlier and get into a higher gear sooner.
Or on the other hand if you are trying to accellerate faster you can shift slightly later. Letting the engine REV a bit more.

Curious as to where everyone else finds themselves shifting so far.
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FWIW I have yielded excellent results with the owners manual recommended shift points on the various Hondas I own/have owned over the years. Granted many bikes can be wound up to the top gear shift point while still in first gear, but for regular daily commuting I've found Honda's points to work quite well in stop & go traffic.

What they tend not to tell you is when the rev limiter starts bouncing in each gear. That's always entertaining the first time it happens.
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Well, the shift points in my CB500X Owner's Manual work if you use the km/hr values in mph; the manual is going for maximum fuel economy.

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FWIW I have yielded excellent results with the owners manual recommended shift points on the various Hondas I own/have owned over the years. Granted many bikes can be wound up to the top gear shift point while still in first gear, but for regular daily commuting I've found Honda's points to work quite well in stop & go traffic.

What they tend not to tell you is when the rev limiter starts bouncing in each gear. That's always entertaining the first time it happens.
Most people on the cbr500 forum say the books shift points are terrible. They want you shifting so fast there is no power.
But I haven't gotten the manual for my bike yet so I can't even see what they recommend.
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I'm with shorty. I did find it odd that I would be in 6th so soon, but without a tach I don't have a reference yet just from sound and feel.

The manual says:
1st to 2nd- 12mph (20km/h)
2nd to 3rd- 19mph (30km/h)
3rd to 4th- 25mph (40km/h)
4th to 5th- 31mph (50km/h)
5th to 6th- 37mph (60km/h)

That seems a bit ridiculous, but they are nice even numbers in km/h.
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The manual says:
1st to 2nd- 12mph (20km/h)
2nd to 3rd- 19mph (30km/h)
3rd to 4th- 25mph (40km/h)
4th to 5th- 31mph (50km/h)
5th to 6th- 37mph (60km/h)
Take away the 5th-to-6th shift point and that reads exactly like the 250 Rebel manual. Even though the 250 can wind out to 20 or so in first, 35 or so in 2nd, 55 or so in third...those shift points work quite well in congested city driving. I actually find myself backing off the throttle with those shift points to avoid eating a rear bumper as the accordion ahead slowly expands.

A lot of folks on the 250 board say the same thing about "shifting long before the power signs on" but I've found unless I'm in any kind of a hurry there's no need to tap the power.

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While breaking in my daughters' bikes I have found that going with almost the same number gear as mph works pretty well. Change to 2nd at 20 or just before, 3rd at 30 or just before etc. Some might think it a little revvy but it is definitely nowhere near redline or making the engine scream. On the other hand definitely stops lugging the engine which both girls are likely to do at times. Once they get used to making the engine work it'll be better for the bikes in the long run.
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So I figured I would start a thread to see what speeds people are using to shift.
At a normal acceleration mine are as follows.

Rebel 500
1st to 2nd: 15 mph
2nd to 3rd: 23-25 mph
3rd to 4th: 32-35 mph
4th to 5th: 40-43 mph
5th to 6th: 48-50 mph
Mine are very close to yours:

Rebel 500A
1st to 2nd: 14 mph
2nd to 3rd: 23-25 mph
3rd to 4th: 35 mph
4th to 5th: 42 mph
5th to 6th: 48 mph
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I'm with shorty. I did find it odd that I would be in 6th so soon, but without a tach I don't have a reference yet just from sound and feel.

The manual says:
1st to 2nd- 12mph (20km/h)
2nd to 3rd- 19mph (30km/h)
3rd to 4th- 25mph (40km/h)
4th to 5th- 31mph (50km/h)
5th to 6th- 37mph (60km/h)

That seems a bit ridiculous, but they are nice even numbers in km/h.
may i know where can you find that part in the manual, please? i think it pretty matched for me with that shifting pattern
i have been looking for it but my user manual only provide the the shifting gear mechanic "1 down 5 up" on page 29 only
thank you!
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I have to tell you that these shifting points seem ridiculously low. Mine are more like:

1st to 2nd - 20mph
2nd to 3rd - 35mph
3rd to 4th- 48mph
4th to 5th- 58mph
5th to 6th - 68mph

Even at these shifting points the bike never hits the rev-limiter.
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